tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post1315795840638452253..comments2024-03-29T13:43:35.093+05:30Comments on Mizohican: Chp 227. The demonization of MizoramMizohicanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-55804057285719631792011-03-31T18:27:10.519+05:302011-03-31T18:27:10.519+05:30These researches always suffer from lack of lifeThese researches always suffer from lack of lifeGeneza Pharmaceuticalshttp://rxheads.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-89274902758659298392009-07-20T12:09:43.289+05:302009-07-20T12:09:43.289+05:30He thil ah ka ngaih ve dan hi chuan tumah hi han ...He thil ah ka ngaih ve dan hi chuan tumah hi han in dem ngawt hi a harsa deuh a ni. Amaherawh chu Burma unaute chungah kan thil tih dan hian kan unau te rirun a tina ngai ang. Ni e, Kan ti sualna teh chiam hran lo amaherawh kan cheh dan hi a tha hlawl lo a ni. Kan hriat theuh ang in harsatna a vang in Burma lam a tang a lo kal ten thil sual te an rawn chawluh fo va kan mit chu a mit mim ngai mai. Mi pakhat sualna a vang a midang chunga kan tuan hi chu a ti chi lo khawp hian ka hre thin. A mah erawh chu burma ramah kan unau te hian thiam han channa bik vak tur hi chu an nei chuang lo unau te pawh ni mahse a chhan chu thil sual tih leh man an awm a pian hian burma lam a tanga lo kal an ni fo. A reng reng thua burma mi lo pawh misual te chu veng chung, khaw, leh Mizoram atang hnawh chuah pawh an awm hian tawh kha mizoram mi ngei ngei pawh.<br />A mah erawh chu international boundary in a min then a vang a lo in hmuhsit and midang deih anga lo ngaih ve hmiah hi zawng thil zahthlak leh thil tih chi lo tak a ni.<br /><a href="http://www.sulumitsretsambewno.com/" title="sulumits retsambew" rel="follow" rel="nofollow">sulumits retsambew</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00053314711144825253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-20823367476815081672009-03-04T20:22:00.000+05:302009-03-04T20:22:00.000+05:30No Evangeline, none of us have heard from the HRW ...No Evangeline, none of us have heard from the HRW so far.<BR/><BR/>Anyway here are some good news on the net today:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.newkerala.com/topstory-fullnews-104187.html" REL="nofollow">www.newkerala.com</A><BR/><BR/>"We are grateful to the kindness and hospitality being shown to us by our Mizo cousins in India’s Mizoram. We strongly condemn such baseless information provided to the global human rights group that tarnished the image of the Mizos. We will find out who had disseminated such wrong information," Cheery Zahau, co-ordinator of Women League of Chinland said here today.<BR/><BR/>Rozathang, president of Zo Human Rights Global Network, also said, "We are extremely sorry for what has been mentioned in the HRW’s website. We will hold the responsibility while at the same time we apologise to the Mizo people."<BR/><BR/>- Click on the above link to read more.Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-3068255069595308442009-03-04T14:16:00.000+05:302009-03-04T14:16:00.000+05:30I just wanted to say i was shocked on reading this...I just wanted to say i was shocked on reading this post and even more shocked when i read the original report. I know a lot have already been said on the unfairness of it all so i won't say more, just wanted to ask what is the latest update on this, have any of the mails reached the HRW if not Amy??Evangelinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04033746198266717887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-2573459224228637782009-03-03T16:55:00.000+05:302009-03-03T16:55:00.000+05:30@ Lalrinchhana: Thanx a lot. I hope this post serv...<B>@ Lalrinchhana:</B> Thanx a lot. I hope this post served some purpose at least, or even if it didn’t I hope HRW won’t make such a mistake again in the future.<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>@ Sam:</B> Why I blame Amy is that it is her responsibility to report the truth. I am not telling her to verify each and every single lies that were fed to her. All I want her to do is to speak to the Mizo people too, and ask whether this is true. In a world where a man calls another man “brother brother brother” and yet backstab him while he is not looking, it is only fair that Amy take some effort to see how and why this happened. In that entire report, not even once did she mention that the Mizos deny it too. Hence by doing that, its like she’s double-stabbing us. First by reporting such lies, and second by not giving us a chance to say anything about it, hence making it look like it is true to the rest of the world. How unprofessional is that! Well, Amy ma’am, believe me, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE SILENT ON THIS.<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>@ Lucy:</B> It’s the same story everywhere, Lucy. We all face similar issues and are all equally shocked with Amy’s biased report. I wonder why she never gave us a chance too so that our voices can also be heard… so unfair… so bloody unfair.Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-16037167745429991392009-03-03T16:54:00.000+05:302009-03-03T16:54:00.000+05:30@ Anonymous: I asked a friend of mine why these Ch...<B>@ Anonymous:</B> I asked a friend of mine why these Chins who commit crimes are not jailed, instead of accumulating all their crimes and then blaming the entire community. He said something about Burmese Nationals not eligible to be jailed as they are foreign nationals, which I think is a load of BS because I believe there are a lot of foreign nationals in our Indian Jails.<BR/><BR/>Like I mentioned before in the comment section, one fault that we Mizos have is the habit of not reporting such crimes to the authorities. Instead we grumble and complain about it to our friends and neighbors, which eventually accumulate and Chins suffer the back-lash in the end. We definitely need a good legal system to control the crime rates of the Chins so as to avoid such incidents again in the future.<BR/><BR/>As I mentioned in my article, that incident was indeed unfortunate. But can you honestly say the tone of the report did justice to that incident?<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>@ Hruaia:</B> Tlai love hotupa. Rawn comment bawrh bawrh rawh. Tuna ka tuiloh em emna pakhat chu kan Politicians leh YMA leaders te hian hemi chung chang hi engvakmah tih an tumlo chu a ang ber mai. Report ho te, “Ti hian lo tih ching tawh lo se” tih an pe chhuak a, an duh tawk der in a lang der. Heihi a na ka tia, YMA a ka rinna pawh a tla hniam sawt. Kan Govt te hian official takin report han pe ve se, keini bloggers ho engmah nilo ho hian kan lo sawi ve tur pawh a nilo, kan Ram hming a ti chhe hle avangin. Official taka beih let tur a ni he report hi.<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>@ Luliana:</B> Thanx bro. I hope they read it too. Have been hoping since the first day I wrote this out, but seems it has no effect till now… :-(Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-11977708242098858382009-03-03T13:18:00.000+05:302009-03-03T13:18:00.000+05:30Hey..I read this post twice already and I'm glad y...Hey..I read this post twice already and I'm glad you wrote it.<BR/><BR/>I remember as I child, that the Chins were never treated badly. Most of them had to do manual labor because majority of the Chins I knew lacked proper education and weren't fluent in Mizo, which is also the reason they preferred their own worship services. A couple of Chins worked for my family and we paid them salaries and they lived and ate with us free of cost and we took care of them when they were sick. Like you, some of them stole from us too. When they die, YMA took care of the funerals like they would do any Mizo. There were a bunch of Chin trader who used to stay in my house for months until they sold all their merchandises and my mother would wake up at 3am to prepare their tiffins.<BR/>We weren't exactly the monster they made us out to be. It's unfair.Lucy In The Skyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01384799209631649486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-90557342915333471682009-03-01T23:21:00.000+05:302009-03-01T23:21:00.000+05:30I read HRW report in horror! Let us not blame Amy ...I read HRW report in horror! Let us not blame Amy Alexander for this report. It is our own brothers who did all these interviews for them, if you see the maps and charts appeared in the report, you will have some idea who could be behind such one-sided report. Those guys must be brought to light. Amy simply wrote down what was feed to her by the coteries around her. <BR/><BR/>Let us get the basics right. In a democratic set up like Mizoram (India), such one-sided reports are TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE... Now, those Chin guys, our brothers who are hobnobbing around Amy will surely feel the heat.... how insensitive they are to justify their cause. If it is not for Mizoram, many of them would have died at the hands of the junta govt in Yangon/Nay Pyi Daw....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-29134322896948244102009-03-01T01:38:00.000+05:302009-03-01T01:38:00.000+05:30Well researched, very well written ! Just what an ...Well researched, very well written ! Just what an inexperienced, prejudiced, overhyped-so called human rights watcher needs ! 5 star to you.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04517132353039635393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-15195308524772328712009-02-28T02:02:00.000+05:302009-02-28T02:02:00.000+05:30Nice read bro...I hope the message reaches the rig...Nice read bro...<BR/><BR/>I hope the message reaches the right people..lulianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00055765023315113407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-31548499490301703182009-02-27T23:34:00.000+05:302009-02-27T23:34:00.000+05:30I post tirhah khan ka chhiar a, Tlai khawhnuah ka ...I post tirhah khan ka chhiar a, Tlai khawhnuah ka rawn comment ta chauh a, ala tlai emlovang chu maw? Hmanniah zoin yahoo group-ah ka post ve a, titi pawh a titam fu a, kan la sawiho ta reng mai...!<BR/><BR/> hetiang a inrel reng lo hian hruaitu levelah te in be thin ila, a zia deuh tur a ni. A pawi thin a ni. Rilru inhliam zawngin kan kal zel hi sim a hun khawp mai. Dinhmun chhezawka awm ten tha zawkte culture mila nun te zir kan tum bawk si lo...!! kan inkar hi chu engemaw chenah ala complicate zel rihin ka ring.<BR/><BR/> gud post..!EPISTEMOLOGYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04974270303370519990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-379259188027432102009-02-27T22:09:00.000+05:302009-02-27T22:09:00.000+05:30Practically rethinking the relation between the Mi...Practically rethinking the relation between the Mizo and the Chin is necessary now. I blame to those Chins who have committed crimes in Mizoram instead of co-existing peacefully. I agree that those who have committed crimes, such as raping 9-year old girl, should be sentenced in accord with the law. On the other hand, there is one thing i would like to point out for the Mizo. Why "Quick Mizoram" movement in stead of punishing and sentencing only the molester? In every nation, there is a crime.Pointing fingers to the whole Chin because of that tragedy is not unacceptable. Doesn't that highlight the discrimination toward the Chin?<BR/><BR/>The Chin needs your sympathy and your understanding. Rethinking genuinely and rebuilding the relationship between the Chin and Mizo is now necessary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-49002005753463877972009-02-27T20:28:00.000+05:302009-02-27T20:28:00.000+05:30@ Jerusha: :-) Well believe me, writing out such a...<B>@ Jerusha:</B> :-) Well believe me, writing out such a post left a bad taste in my mouth but I had to do it. I poured out a lot of my feelings while doing it too. Whether they acknowledge to my post or not, I just want to let whoever comes across this post know the other side of the story too. Frustrated, I am.<BR/><BR/><B>@ Mang:</B> Still no sign of Ms. Amy Alexander :-( Anyway, I do hope she comes across our frustration and get to know how serious her articles have affected us. On a far second thought, isn't the way she defamed and slandered to the world about us, a violation of our human rights too? Just wondering...Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-63649571449346518212009-02-26T11:00:00.000+05:302009-02-26T11:00:00.000+05:30Kima,oops, should have tested it myself first. sor...Kima,oops, should have tested it myself first. sorry.<BR/>just plain stupid of me to think that the particular mail id will work. She has written so much against the military junta in Myanmar, so finding here correct mail-id will be a tough one ( will have to use the services of our very own Chemtarawta..).<BR/>Did find one on zoominfo.com, amy alexander from Ontario,Canada, just a message contact, doubt whether reads it.mangbuhrilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08689569291982454576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-60282709425778219542009-02-26T09:21:00.000+05:302009-02-26T09:21:00.000+05:30It was! I logged in to check my idle world of Mizo...It was! I logged in to check my idle world of Mizoram news and communities, and seeing this just made my blood boil. I also saw the comments on misual, and I find it annoying to see more than 80% of the comments not relating to the issue at hand - as usual. Anyway, I fumed and I think a lot of us just fume and get steamed up and then cool down. That was why I called you hero - to see somebody actually doing something and making a noise about it :)Jerushahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16220240614247032733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-60269026594859550812009-02-25T20:53:00.000+05:302009-02-25T20:53:00.000+05:30@ Jeru: Hey, you're back! :) Hope you had a great ...@ Jeru: Hey, you're back! :) Hope you had a great trip. It must be shocking for you to come back and read all this. I just wrote to Ms. Amy Alexander and I received a failure notice. And still no response from Mr. Tom porteous, not that I am expecting one. I just wish it was more easy to contact such people... all I wanna do is reason with them... :-(Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-77159236923173742812009-02-25T20:51:00.000+05:302009-02-25T20:51:00.000+05:30MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com : failure notice.Mail sent...MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com : failure notice.<BR/><BR/>Mail sent to Amyalex_thailand@yahoo.com failed<BR/><BR/>It says, "This user doesn't have a yahoo.com account"<BR/><BR/>:-(Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-35316983629408458822009-02-25T16:38:00.000+05:302009-02-25T16:38:00.000+05:30***muah muah*** My hero! :PPRight now, I'm just pe...***muah muah*** My hero! :PP<BR/><BR/>Right now, I'm just perplexed! How could something as big as the HRW hire someone as incompetent as this Amy whoever! Every thing in that report shows how unfit she and/or whoever is involved in putting that so-called report together. I can see you're being nice and you refuse to call it shoddy. But I'll do it for you - it IS below shoddy. It is a tawdry piece of work and that woman should be banned from writing any sort of report again ever.Jerushahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16220240614247032733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-45186136200151666802009-02-25T16:10:00.000+05:302009-02-25T16:10:00.000+05:30Amen!Amen!Hriatpuia Pahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375505511793753520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-34016077459246645182009-02-25T13:36:00.000+05:302009-02-25T13:36:00.000+05:30Thank you so much, mang!!!!I'll write to her direc...Thank you so much, mang!!!!<BR/><BR/>I'll write to her directly later in the evening today. Thank you once again for digging this detail out.Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-57630449214045167282009-02-25T11:21:00.000+05:302009-02-25T11:21:00.000+05:30and here's more, a pic of Ms. Amy Alexander, the l...and here's more, a pic of Ms. Amy Alexander, the link is<BR/>http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-01-28-voa19.cfmmangbuhrilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08689569291982454576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-10735053609017197982009-02-25T11:19:00.000+05:302009-02-25T11:19:00.000+05:30Kima,i hope this mail id is true of Amy Amyalex_th...Kima,i hope this mail id is true of Amy Amyalex_thailand@yahoo.com<BR/><BR/>got it from this site<BR/>http://eng.chro.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=181&Itemid=18<BR/><BR/>in case it helpsmangbuhrilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08689569291982454576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-59650169161905105602009-02-24T21:41:00.001+05:302009-02-24T21:41:00.001+05:30@ zualbonez: Please feel free to show this to your...<B>@ zualbonez:</B> Please feel free to show this to your boss. I agree the Bru influx and Chin influx are two completely different incidents but nevertheless a part of the same problem. I really don’t mind if the Human Rights step in, but they MUST BE UNBIASED in all their investigations.<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>@ chhangte_II:</B> Thanks for your comment Pu Chhangte_II. Tiang hi a lawm “white man’s burden” an tih chu. i sawi ang chiah khan tunlai khawvel a buaina tam ber chu Mingo hovin ram an lo then dan a dikloh avangin a ni deuh tlangpui. Rwanda a genocide lian ber Hutu leh Tutsi in tih buai te pawh kha Mingo hovin an segregate vang lek a lawm. A pawi tak tak a ni.<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>@ Blind Dayze:</B> Lolz, That is so true! Great quotation there :-)<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>@ Pixie:</B> lolz Pixie! Like I said before, I know it was a silly mistake so there’s no need to apologize. But yeah, taking this whole “unknown NE section of India” into the picture and you being a person not from NE, it does sound a little bit bad. Hahaha but, hey like I said before, it’s a silly mistake and I actually find it cute, especially your EEEKS! LolzMizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-91600333351477070262009-02-24T21:41:00.000+05:302009-02-24T21:41:00.000+05:30@ faka: I’m going to try submitting this post to m...<B>@ faka:</B> I’m going to try submitting this post to most of the Indian discussion forums I regularly haunt, but I fear not many will be interested as nobody knows what’s going on at this part of the country and nobody really cares. Even the HRW report itself was never prominently published in any of our Indian print Media. What we need to do is target the World community because those are the people who the HRW report targeted. We need to use the same medium and I just need to figure out how. :-(<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>@ Shankari:</B> Thank you for visiting. I’m sure glad you stumbled here by chance and I am genuinely grateful you had such a memorable time during your stay in Mizoram. I agree the place is too beautiful to be marred by such ugly incidents. It doesn’t go along with the picturesque landscape.<BR/><BR/><BR/><B>@ mang:</B> Thanx for the comment mang. Like I said before in my earlier comments, I had no idea who to write to regarding this issue as none of the people involved had their email addresses on the website. Even the contact for HRW Asia chapter is not mentioned in the site :-(<BR/><BR/>So today I wrote a mail to Mr. Tom Porteous, the Director of London chapter directly with a link to my post and asked him to please please forward it to:<BR/><BR/>Amy Alexander, consultant for Human Rights Watch<BR/>Sara Colm, senior researcher in the Asia division of HRW<BR/>Elaine Pearson, deputy Asia director<BR/>Dinah PoKempner, general counsel<BR/>Grace Choi, publications specialist<BR/>Jim Murphy, online editor<BR/>Veronica Matushaj & Anna Lopriore, multimedia specialists<BR/>Fitzroy Hepkins, production manager<BR/><BR/>The following people mentioned above are involved with this report.<BR/><BR/>I’ll pray to God that Mr. Porteous reads my post or at least forward my mail to the people mentioned above.Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-31894151189142050902009-02-24T21:30:00.000+05:302009-02-24T21:30:00.000+05:30*Blush*... EEEKS!!! what a bad bad mistake to make...*Blush*... EEEKS!!! what a bad bad mistake to make! <BR/><BR/> Of course its NE India!!<BR/>typo dude, pls excuse!! :)<BR/><BR/>and yea, we need the right awareness so that at least when we tell people off for racism, we should have our facts right to defend our stance...Pixiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14433156131506216582noreply@blogger.com