tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post2505444173907731605..comments2024-03-29T13:43:35.093+05:30Comments on Mizohican: Chp 492. Quora: What do people of Mizoram think about India?Mizohicanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-73251768869410713772024-01-07T07:52:24.654+05:302024-01-07T07:52:24.654+05:30Tamil/Thamizh hate Kashmiris, Malayalis, Telugus, ...Tamil/Thamizh hate Kashmiris, Malayalis, Telugus, etc.TJ Magsakayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17638181196986500908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-26635421671782006602014-09-27T01:53:25.620+05:302014-09-27T01:53:25.620+05:30We are all one; I hope a day will come where we do...We are all one; I hope a day will come where we don't hate each other. the sad truth is that every Indian hates each other. I am a Gujarati and when i went to Madhya Pradesh I was harassed people use to say "oye sala gujju vapass ja tu" .... I hate this about our country Bhaiya. I just want to say it doesn’t matter if you are from Mizoram,Tripura,Gujarat or Punjab we are all and we are all Indian I don’t see states I see a country as a whole. If you are ever in Gujarat please come to Amalsad,Gujarat a very very very small village play some garba. Much Love My friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-58796225545686076802014-05-22T01:26:59.173+05:302014-05-22T01:26:59.173+05:30I am from Mizoram as well, and I personally DO NOT...I am from Mizoram as well, and I personally DO NOT think racism against us will end any time soon. There will be racist feeling among us and other Indians as long as we have a difference in appearance. One little blog comments doesn't solve everything, there were too many times people threw a racist word against me while I was studying in B.Tech in Punjab, and not only in that area, but also in other states like the capital of India, Delhi. I was robbed, ignored etc. Too many things to mention actually,I couldn't complete my studies and my aim in life due to that, I'm not a guy with much patience and I just couldn't tolerate that more. Just saying this "I don't want to be an Indian any longer". Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659918840972143888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-49563053775314990202014-05-05T03:14:19.329+05:302014-05-05T03:14:19.329+05:30Citizens of India are called indians.
'Indians...Citizens of India are called indians.<br />'Indians' doesn't denote a specific race...<br />....most north indians are 'aryan' race & south indian are 'dravidian' race.<br />Hope you can now understand what race is all about.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12527845238543513596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-4521299673391806132014-03-05T00:31:52.697+05:302014-03-05T00:31:52.697+05:30Well written. But being a non mizo ANI and having ... Well written. But being a non mizo ANI and having been in Mizoram from age 3 to 18, I hav a slightly different perspective. The racial discrimination I faced in Mizoram is engraved on my mind.The term 'Vai' is mostly used as a derogatory term for people like me. As a child there i was always made to feel so different and so much lesser in every aspect than the Mizos. There was a deep racist tone when the term Vai was used in Mizoram wheras the terms like 'Chinki' used by mainland Indians most of the time is without strong racial overtones as it is the way of calling a person with mongoloid features. By this i do not exonnerate all non mizos as being not racist but the percentage is much smaller. Non mizos may generally be insensitive but that do not make them Racist. Even after having experienced racism in mizoram, i deeply love their culture and the community feeling they share amongst themselves and also the ethics they display in their social behaviour. Only one wishes their condescending behaviour towards non mizos changes. Rest of the post i completely agree. Mizoram is making great progress and i wish i becomes the best State because its inhabited by the most wonderfull people.sandyjaswalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03129466929754627520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-7638668152217760442014-02-21T14:06:15.001+05:302014-02-21T14:06:15.001+05:30@Nynol
Thank you. Your verbal diarrhoea beautiful...@Nynol<br /><br />Thank you. Your verbal diarrhoea beautifully proves for us our daily challenges of being heard without a defensive and personal attack. For your information, we all know Mizo soceity and politics is not an utopian one, and I bet yours isnt either. But that doesnt negate the fact that its not our regions' imperfection that is our biggest problem, but making ill-informed, arrogant, idiotic people like you understand that its actually your 'everyone else is wrong but me' attitude which is and has always been our biggest problem. So, thank you, again :-) Helen Parihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05018660757245682515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-73499234904179601752014-02-15T22:51:40.717+05:302014-02-15T22:51:40.717+05:30The question itself is based on the assumption tha...The question itself is based on the assumption that the people of Mizoram are in some way outside of being Indian. That annoys me. <br /><br />That said, I was amazed at so many things (unmanned shops, queue formation). Loved reading (and learning) so much about Mizoram. So much so, that it's on the top of my list of travel destinations now. Cant wait! And thanks for such a comprehensive and lovely post. <br /><br />And...apologies on behalf of all your Vais for the way you've been made to feel.Ashikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06615837818302592885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-42903371029975155222014-02-04T02:51:42.025+05:302014-02-04T02:51:42.025+05:30i have some friends who are from NE...believe me t...i have some friends who are from NE...believe me they are like my brothers here...i praise them for their artistic skills, their sense of humour and above all their innocence...I am a north indian, but i feel ashamed when when i see most of us fighting for petty issues, like water, breaking queues on metro station...and wrt to the video TOI got, I saw that video and liked the soldiers for their bravery...what i can assure you here is that I will make more and more friends from NE here and will visit Mizo for sure...god bless and keep writing :)Bharat Vermahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899441460261938575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-85938844175881593222014-02-01T15:41:06.231+05:302014-02-01T15:41:06.231+05:30In comment-na lam hian Chhiar a nuamIn comment-na lam hian Chhiar a nuamPuibawihahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14853181453393846475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-17075329260638006302014-02-01T14:35:29.107+05:302014-02-01T14:35:29.107+05:30@Bd Chawngthu
You yourself are propagating confus...@Bd Chawngthu<br /><br />You yourself are propagating confusions.<br /><br />The word "indian" is a term identifying a racial group. It's not a nationality.<br /><br />The mizos/kukis are in reality "chin people" only, not indian.<br /><br />The arunachalis, sikkimiese are "tibetans", not indian.<br /><br />The naga people are "naga", not indian.<br /><br />Geo-politically, the tibetans are part of the indian union by "consent".<br /><br />On the other hand, the chin and nagas are part of the indian union by "force".<br /><br />A simple reading of the accession agreements wrt kashmir and north eastern states will reveal how india views its relation with these regions.<br /><br />When punjab insurgency took off, it was crushed with brute force once and for all because that is what the punjabi politicians in new delhi wanted. With kashmir and NE insurgency, it doesn't do that because delhi politicians do not consider it a "part of india"(different from "indian union").<br /><br />To crush the insurgency in NE and incorporate it as "part of india", the command needs to come from NE politicians in delhi, as punjabi politicians in delhi did with their own insurgency in the 80s.<br /><br />But since there are no NE politicians in delhi, there is no decision. It's fate remains hanging.<br /><br />The non-NE politicians is delhi will not do the job for you. U will have to do it yourself.Nynolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12909443674608239857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-79805135393251456282014-02-01T04:15:31.575+05:302014-02-01T04:15:31.575+05:30"as most of the Mizo men were in the forests ..."as most of the Mizo men were in the forests engaged in guerrilla warfare with the army"<br /><br />Was it?benjamin rualthanzauvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12768672794264438637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-87487242766063545732014-01-31T22:47:19.105+05:302014-01-31T22:47:19.105+05:30"about indians opinions about north-east"..."about indians opinions about north-east" ???? <br />Why do you keep using Indians to describe the mainland people, the north-east are indians too. <br />The very discrimination is highlighted in the usage of words in your comment.Bd Chawngthuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12958266068250443914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-82672844336170781822014-01-30T07:54:13.679+05:302014-01-30T07:54:13.679+05:30Chhiar a nuam thin hle mai. Indian kan nihna lamah...Chhiar a nuam thin hle mai. Indian kan nihna lamah chuan Pu Rualthanzauva chhanna hi ka pawm e. Ka huat deuh chu Mainland (NE ni lo) lama awm, mi pangngai ve hmel deuh deuh ten kan state Mizoram an hre lo thin hi a ni. A awmna lai chiang lo palh te chu ka ngaidam thei, mahse Assam tih vel bak NE ah hriat an nei lo thin hi rilru a lo na ve thin. Mi vantlang hnuai lam chuan hre lo pawh nise a zia a, mahse inti changkang ve takten an hre lo thin hi a mak ka ti. An knowledge zim zia te ka ngaihtuah fo thin.. Rajasthan, Gujarat, Tamil Nadu ah ka tawng tawh.. Buata Bawihtlunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06727251698931557115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-16040347088431742192014-01-30T01:43:08.985+05:302014-01-30T01:43:08.985+05:30As someone who belongs to North India... or Too No...As someone who belongs to North India... or Too North of North India I can vouch for the treatment that is meted out to people who look different. Mainland India which is usually the plains of India has a habit of thinking India and Indians as themselves only. They might claim the borderlands as part of India but people of border lands are still considered as foreigners. This gets accentuated by the occupationist attitude of armed and para military forces in these areas. So it is uphill task for all of us. As for the ethnic clashes in NE, it is deplorable and it is high time that youth stands up against this mindless violence. But just to level as this flaw with NE people is being myopic about history of ethnic violence in rest of India, Lets use this space to improve our understanding of each other in a positive atmosphere.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01293370071459548153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-55109965193037525642014-01-30T00:10:23.207+05:302014-01-30T00:10:23.207+05:30Btw, you need to understand some cultural traits a...Btw, you need to understand some cultural traits about indians.<br /><br />When indians talk about others, it's usually full of "praises". That's why when the indian prime minister goes to iran, he starts his speech with 2 pages worth of words that praise irans history and culture.<br /><br />You might be getting the wrong information about indians opinions about north-east. Indians will always talk nice about north-east because it is a cultural trait. That's why you see most indians in newspapers and TV praise the north-east as a matriarchal society blah blah.<br /><br />But you see we already know that it is the women in north-east who wash the clothes and cook the food; not the men. Indians do actually know that NE is not matriarchal. Indians only actually say NE is matriarchal because that the praise which NE wants to hear.<br /><br />The problem is that the NE has taken the praises from indians very seriously. In the process, the NE has forgot to introspect.Nynolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12909443674608239857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-27259381024007451752014-01-29T23:56:19.040+05:302014-01-29T23:56:19.040+05:30@shah kamal khan
1) Ethnic politics
2) Christian ...@shah kamal khan<br /><br />1) Ethnic politics<br />2) Christian extremism<br />3) Ethnic executions<br />4) Inter-tribal warfares<br />5) Mass eviction of populations to other states<br />6) Bomb blasts<br />7) Nexus between religious nut cases and state<br />administration<br />8) Tribal vs Everything Non-tribals<br />9) Demands for 2 dozen new states<br />10) Executions of non-mongoloids<br />11) Demands for 5 new sovereign states<br />12) Nexus between local politicians and militants who have committed mass executions of ethnic groups<br />13) Nexus between local politicians and international drug trafficking<br /><br />and on and on and on<br /><br />It's sad that the people of north-east themselves fail to see these gigantic flaws in themselves and get have the bandwidth to fight tooth and nail over someone calling them "ch!nkies".<br /><br />Do I see a light at the end of the tunnel? I rather not answer. Nynolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12909443674608239857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-78024963141135971562014-01-29T23:04:44.274+05:302014-01-29T23:04:44.274+05:30I m totally dissetisfy with the view of Nynol .. ...I m totally dissetisfy with the view of Nynol .. Actually he is comparing Indian culture with incomparable mizo culture which is full of smile, honesty, love, fear of one god and virtue which rest of Indian may learn after 100years .<br />Person who think vendor less sops are funny seems he/she never imagine of honesty and humanity can exist in this world . Seem like humanity and honesty never exist where he/she living .<br />And we don't want to see our children's to learn it either to unrest our society . We help each-other for equality in every way we never discriminate poor or unhealthy people we love each-other unlike the place wr u belong to. You can't convert us into inhuman rather you learn from our society abt the true meaning of morality . We are not 20 years behind rather 60 years ahed that's the reason you will not c litter or garbage on the road unlike rest of india . The reason why we fight outsiders is because we love our culture as a whole in terms of morality and humanity and we will continue to fight if external force try to Change us. If one die entire locality keep awake and shuts shops and prey for his/her Marcy unlike rest of india . If any neighbourhood states want to influence our culture we will never gonna accept it as we knew it's gonna be ugly. Because no good results can be seen we are more healthy and beautiful then them and we will fight to keep it at any cost.<br />The problem with you is that you only following u don't live here so how can u able to judge the ground reality about mizoram . ITS A DREAM LAND YOU NEVER THOUGHT OF AFTER YOU BORN THAT CAN BE EXIST IN THIS WORLD :)shah kamal khanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08972776803141278749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-35016609011222094792014-01-29T17:58:20.042+05:302014-01-29T17:58:20.042+05:30Your comments about "vendorless shops etc&quo...Your comments about "vendorless shops etc" are silly. It is not india vs mizoram. Rather you are just comparing a village lifestyle with a non-village lifestyle.<br /><br />The points you mentioned are similar to any indian village where everyone knows everyone and people live their lives in slow metabolism.<br /><br />It's not that people don't know mizoram. We actually know. We know exactly where mizos and chins live. We know the meities and chins and involved in internecine warfare. We know the mizos have evicted other tribal communities out into neighboring tripura. We know the nature of society in mizoram, the involvement of religion in politics at all that.<br /><br />The point is, mizoram is 20 years behind other indian states is terms of human and societal development. 1/3rd of the NE(except tibetans) fights the other 1/3rd and the other 1/3rd fights the indian army. This doesn't happen in the rest of india. Do you ever see marathis burning down bhaiya villages etc? Or andhras chasing away tamil?<br /><br />The things that happen in NE are entirely non-indian and on a different level and scale. Yes, india and NE are culturally very different. Absolutely true. If you want mainland india to report NE in a positive light then give it something positive to report, not just sport stars like mary kom and meitei bodybuilders. Change yourselves from a land of numerous war theaters riddled with identity politics to something homogenous. Don't say you are homogenous when clearly you fight blood wars. Just 2 weeks ago, the nagas executed a dozen karbi villagers as revenge.<br /><br />Is this the homogenous NE you talk about?<br /><br />Yes, many indians don't know about NE but there are people like me who follow the events NE regularly because of our profession. If we actually started reporting the NE to mainstream india, it would not be a pretty picture because of obvious ongoing events in the NE.<br /><br />Your regions sad truth is that it won't change in our lifetime. Your kids might but not your generation.Nynolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12909443674608239857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-71154347606697474842014-01-29T11:28:21.786+05:302014-01-29T11:28:21.786+05:30Me and my wife stayed in Mizoram for more than 9 m...Me and my wife stayed in Mizoram for more than 9 months. From begging people to let us stay in their house to crying unconsolably on the farewell dinner that our family there served for us, the journey overwhelmly helped us understand history's perspective in general. <br /><br />Now, we cant eat masalas anymore and cant do without rice and dal in the morning (we were mumbaities who could do with a vada pav to our office and have late lunch earlier!)<br /><br />Thanks Mizoram and its people. Credit people for their perceptions, because most of it comes from the history - first hand or second...Jatindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10521631446465518152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-21877898379504429692014-01-28T13:48:00.621+05:302014-01-28T13:48:00.621+05:30I am a "Mainlander," a Mumbaikar to be p...I am a "Mainlander," a Mumbaikar to be precise.<br /><br />I do consider all North Eastern people Indians; heck, even writing that makes me feel weird. Understand what you guys go through though: the number of times I have berated people for using the term "Chinki" is way too many.<br /><br />Lovely write-up, and not everyone has forgotten Operation Jericho.<br /><br />Hope things change as more and more people-to-people interactions happen.Anonymityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11287029967048071174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-55617106101129517122014-01-28T02:24:19.571+05:302014-01-28T02:24:19.571+05:30What an astonishingly good piece K. Tops. Much adm...What an astonishingly good piece K. Tops. Much admiration. This def needs to get published in the mainline media. Bhaskar Khaundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210899788967335638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-18517041110213460202014-01-28T02:22:53.160+05:302014-01-28T02:22:53.160+05:30What an astonishingly good piece K. Tops. Much adm...What an astonishingly good piece K. Tops. Much admiration. This def needs to get published in the mainline media. Bhaskar Khaundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15210899788967335638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-69925345771421079992014-01-27T20:21:53.598+05:302014-01-27T20:21:53.598+05:30The plight of the Bnei Menashe http://www.thaindia...The plight of the Bnei Menashe http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/uncategorized/mizo-jews-devastated-after-migration-bid-to-israel-halted_10069498.html<br /><br />In contrast we have the Bene Israeli, who arrived at the Kokan coast 2000 years ago, peacefully coexisted with Hindus, immigrated to Israel when the opportunity came, and now are building their lives in Beeesheba and Dimona, and today Martathi is one of Israel's smaller languages.<br />Yogesh Jayant Khandkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14184336312458216867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-22042692644770723532014-01-27T20:07:35.359+05:302014-01-27T20:07:35.359+05:30No word about the Mizo Jews and the hatred they fa...No word about the Mizo Jews and the hatred they faced at the hands of the church! Also the fact that Mizos were animist is mentioned as a legacy to be ashamed of, something that the church indoctrinated the Mizos into thinking! a typical Christian device. Gorkhas also have Mongolian features, I've been living with Gorkha neighbours and co-workers for over four decades, never witnessed racism. I can empathise with the bad governance experience, bad governance is the price we pay for being a democracy, see how the Han Chinese are devouring the Tibetans and the Central Asian minorities, if Mizoram had been a part of China it would either have seen an invasion of Han Chinese or with the ten Lakh population would have been relocated to say Madhya Pradesh, just my $ 0.02 Yogesh Jayant Khandkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14184336312458216867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-32370197356550279022014-01-27T18:21:40.695+05:302014-01-27T18:21:40.695+05:30Hi,
I think this is the story of person from ever...Hi,<br /><br />I think this is the story of person from every state of the country. Although the type and intensity of abuse may differ. Once we leave our territory and visit a new state, we are seen upon as strangers. But this is our Country, Diverse. And we must learn to accept all kinds of diversity that there is in the nation, only then can we call ourselves Indians.shyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02405875908463628347noreply@blogger.com