tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post4806640462032992688..comments2024-03-28T10:23:52.546+05:30Comments on Mizohican: Chp 134. Ethnocide: The Great Hibu FiascoMizohicanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-44123457624991685772013-04-01T12:32:57.708+05:302013-04-01T12:32:57.708+05:30i should have seen this back then
i had to get up ...i should have seen this back then<br />i had to get up in the morning early, scan & hide all the newspaper from my roommate (Robin Hibu's niece)so as not to see her in tears again<br />piece like this where Mr. Hibu was not completely attacked by fellow NE would have made her day those days...tuna hmuh tir chu amzia toh lo bok sia :)<br />seniUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15299324255521486835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-69618310955887399152007-08-04T23:13:00.000+05:302007-08-04T23:13:00.000+05:30Well Mr illusionaire your post is well written and...Well Mr illusionaire your post is well written and makes sense.<BR/><BR/> I would however advise you to remove the link to the discussion on the topic by Sepia Mutiny--it is an unacknowledged COPY (not plagiarising, it is copy-and-paste)from an Arunachalees blog(www.Arunachaldiary.blogspot.com) and Sepia Mutiny has shamelessly lifted different postings from this blog in the past too and shamelessly presented it as its own.Disgusting pirates.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-39887526928299326792007-07-31T21:56:00.000+05:302007-07-31T21:56:00.000+05:30Hi Sandman,Thanks for the lovely poem on my post! ...Hi Sandman,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the lovely poem on my post! It made me feel like making a special Mariuca Mug just for u LOL! :)<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I read this article of yours several days ago (using the great bloglines!), I read every word to make sure I really understand what you wrote. <BR/><BR/>I feel bad for the author cause like u mentioned, his intentions were noble to begin with, but due to certain things, it has been blown into such a huge issue that I bet he regrets ever writing it ;)<BR/><BR/>I do agree with you on several issues here, but what I would like to mention is what u wrote about him neglecting to have his work proofread and edited first. <BR/><BR/>Being a copywriter, I wish he had done that at least. That on its own, would have helped sugar-coat his words better and made it less harsh or bold. Which brings me to my point, that u always need to proofread and edit your work, many many times before feeling satisfied enough to have it published. To have such a sensitive topic out in the open like this, without any form of toning down his words, is just asking for trouble ;)<BR/><BR/>But that's just my opinion. :) Most importantly, I wanted to tell YOU that this was an excellent article. Your writing was magnificent, you covered all the bases and you definitely left me in AWE at the unique talent you so obviously profess... <BR/><BR/>I'm just baffled as to why you're not on the bestseller list yet. Am really looking forward to your first book. I have no doubts in my mind that you will be awfully famous one day. Don't forget me when you're at the top! Will be waiting for that autographed copy no matter when! :) :) :)<BR/><BR/>Have a pleasant night (or day!)Mariucahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12007881762639103700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-36604562168079637262007-07-29T03:42:00.000+05:302007-07-29T03:42:00.000+05:30IMHO... Publishing a book like this would make us(...IMHO... Publishing a book like this would make us() vulnerable to being discriminated -- don't you think so???<BR/>Instead of publishing a book-tips for the northeast, he should better publish a book like, SEX education if he have a lot of time to kill. Me a racist too :D, sorry pooh!!!mnowluckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12378013983432242882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-23102247548473616472007-07-28T03:40:00.000+05:302007-07-28T03:40:00.000+05:30Humans are a mistake.Humans are a mistake.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995100622148605692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-64155969526316623082007-07-27T01:37:00.000+05:302007-07-27T01:37:00.000+05:30Hello Mr S. I am just popping in to read all the w...Hello Mr S. I am just popping in to read all the wonderful comments...seems like all the coolest things are saidin ones 'comment section' , not so ? Thanks for the recent comment you left me on my blog, it made me absolutely hoze myself ! :) JesseTrixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06536462575625902264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-40864832591206804722007-07-26T20:13:00.000+05:302007-07-26T20:13:00.000+05:30Thanx for the comment bro :) Yup the answer lies i...Thanx for the comment bro :) Yup the answer lies in the youth. Assimilation will only take place through a gradual peaceful compromise, and never by means of brute force. <BR/><BR/>Ps. When are you updating your blog??? lolz. Lost interest in blogging already? And you were all fired up and enthu etc when you posted your first article :) Its been 2 months now, and still the same 4 posts :))Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-51903526213631279882007-07-26T01:02:00.000+05:302007-07-26T01:02:00.000+05:30The tabloidesque title threw me off initially but ...The tabloidesque title threw me off initially but thanks for the measuredly articulated reportage. I seem to be constantly blowing my own line but does dealing with difference have to be limited to extreme tones: paternal condescension at best and rabid insenstivity/blindness at worst. From what you write, seems like Hibu, for all his well intentioned impulse, seems to have inadvertently pigeonholed himself into these self-limiting tones. If the youth do have the answer (as you aver in a response) id say it'd be in creativity...of conjuring up attitudes and practices that encounter and engage with difference in ways that are more equitable, inclusive and life-affirming. Thanks for keeping us on top of these issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-64393962454221294642007-07-26T00:45:00.000+05:302007-07-26T00:45:00.000+05:30@ anonymous: Thanx for the visit and comment :)@ o...@ anonymous: Thanx for the visit and comment :)<BR/><BR/>@ oracle: India is not called a Unity in diversity for nothing. There is a unity amidst the vast diversity, simply because we have learned how to live with each other. Even with the existence of various different classes and ethnic groups, the level of discrimination in India is never as bad as the early Americas where white folks would hunt down black people to hang or burn, just because they were black. In India, we have learned how to compromise, as you mentioned, to a certain level. Many of my closest friends are non-Mizos. We get along so well with each other only because we compromise when it comes to each person's particular culture and tradition. Compromising means accepting other cultures as they are. It does not mean we should stop practicing our own customs and traditions. The second, is what the booklet unfortunately seem to suggest. Thanx for the comment.Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-58484304447532280902007-07-26T00:32:00.000+05:302007-07-26T00:32:00.000+05:30@ FadenoMore: He's the Commissioner of Police. If ...@ FadenoMore: He's the Commissioner of Police. If somebody in that position make such a statement, what does it look like to the common man? Remember, with great power, comes great responsibility.<BR/><BR/>And apart from that, even if it was just an advice, need he label the community in such a way? Suppose a Muslim Leader, say an IAS or IPS officer, "advices" the Muslim community not to wear their white Kufi Skullcap, because it "announces" to the others that they are Muslims and they might be discriminated for that. Can you imagine how the Muslim community would react to that? That is exactly what Mr.Hibu had done. He is "advicing" his own community to change according to the people around them, to prevent them from being alienated. Even though such an attempt is a noble deed, he seems to be blaming them for all the discriminations they have faced because they won't comply with a different culture.<BR/><BR/>Even if it is up to us to oblige or not, why tell the whole wide world that we eat "stinky" food and wear promiscuous clothes? How will you react if somebody "advices" you to change something that has been a part of you since time immemorial? And remember, its not just that somebody advising you, but publishing those words of advice for everybody to see... The main point is, why publish it like that? He could have told each community separately in ways like newsletter, magazine article etc. BMA never distributed their Do's and Don'ts to newspapers, police stations, Schools and colleges etc. And I think it's mostly in Mizo. There's a vast differences between those and Mr.Hibu's publication.Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-14755483693766996402007-07-25T13:47:00.000+05:302007-07-25T13:47:00.000+05:30..Mr.Hibu has released a guide booklet.he has not .....<BR/><BR/>Mr.Hibu has released a guide booklet.<BR/>he has not ENFORCED it on the NE People has he?<BR/>its up to us to follow it or disregard it.<BR/>the BMA (Bangalore Mizo Association) also has published rules and regulations for the Mizos to follow while living in Blore.. do we follow them? No. :)<BR/><BR/>its upto us to decide what we feel is right or wrong. simple as.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-42880262000532812292007-07-24T23:21:00.000+05:302007-07-24T23:21:00.000+05:30I share your opinion about this Police booklet, a ...I share your opinion about this Police booklet, a good post again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-4984709154599385982007-07-24T22:35:00.000+05:302007-07-24T22:35:00.000+05:30It gladdens me when voices within a community spea...It gladdens me when voices within a community speak up and make sense of issues rather than indulging in caustic attacks on adverse commentary.I believe in India , most of us stick by our various identiites ( religion, region, caste etc) ,and each faction has had to face discrimination because of it.<BR/>And instead of looking at the diversity as a multiplier of cultural plurality we seek to draw lines and create sacrosanct but closed spaces.<BR/>As i have experienced, a genuine and warm intermingling of diverse group can only take place when each faction is willing to compromise. <BR/>When one invites a guest home ,there are protocols that both the host and the guest folllows. SO if each of us takes care of such protocols on an individual/society level , we will not only dissolve boundaries but at the same time preserve indivdual/social/ ethnic identities.Oraclehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16480061033833201133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-66008947231382540202007-07-24T19:30:00.000+05:302007-07-24T19:30:00.000+05:30@Phoenix: You and I belong to the new generation o...@Phoenix: You and I belong to the new generation of Indian youth, fighting discrimination of all forms. Power to the Youth! :) <BR/><BR/>India is complicated, because of its unique diversity. That is why there are separate laws for Hindu Marriages, Muslim marriage etc, and why Tribal laws and customs are still practiced in many places with the Govt's knowing. Hence when it comes to such issues as culture and tradition, I believe anyone trying to make a change (in the name of progress) should tread as carefully as possible, especially when dealing with those of the minorities.<BR/><BR/>@ Chacko: Thanx! :) I am a regular reader of Mutiny, incase you don't know :) I never comment because of my ongoing UPSC coaching classes, but sometimes it is really difficult to be a silent observer especially when it comes to topics like Race, discrimination, exploitation, ethnocentrism etc. Thanx for the visit once again!Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-32720959252484343732007-07-24T14:36:00.000+05:302007-07-24T14:36:00.000+05:30Great post, we should have you on the Mutiny (that...Great post, we should have you on the Mutiny (that's www.mutiny.in incase you were wondering) :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-15322149251945961052007-07-24T09:53:00.000+05:302007-07-24T09:53:00.000+05:30good post, really. And being one of those "mainlan...good post, really. And being one of those "mainland Indians" who happens to hate discrimination of any kind...esp on issue like ethnicity and caste, I feel strongly for tolerance, respect freedom and equality. Why make a farce of democracy in india by imposing "conducts"?<BR/><BR/>but then again, on another level one could reflect...when muslim clerics and self appointed Gods bring out dictums for women's dress codes...burkhas et al...the community itself doesnt cringe that much but when a comment is made from outside, it reacts automatically. Similarly with people from the NE, the tube tops get so easily stereotyped, it doesnt cease to amaze.Phoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14427880766691064056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-83963598078845699192007-07-24T01:17:00.000+05:302007-07-24T01:17:00.000+05:30Thanx for commenting dear Pi Shahnaz. Sorry, but I...Thanx for commenting dear Pi Shahnaz. Sorry, but I don't have the scanned copy. I don't think it's that difficult to get a copy of it. Since I already read the actual copy, I guess I never bothered to get a copy for myself. Maybe I'll ask around and try to get it scanned for you :)<BR/><BR/>Anyway, only about half the book is on the so called "security tips" for NE students. The remaining half is more on a very generalized topic, the kind of safety measures one can find anywhere, like not leaving your keys under the door mat, what to do in case of a fire etc etc. I don't think he wrote that other half as the style of English and even the paragraph style were completely different from the first half.Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-78385571052587831012007-07-23T21:39:00.000+05:302007-07-23T21:39:00.000+05:30Well written Kima.Like you, I have refrained from ...Well written Kima.Like you, I have refrained from commenting as I have not yet read the booklet(scanned copy i nei mial lo maw:-)except the selected excerpts by the newspapers to suit their sales, but I can relate well to what you have written. <BR/>Thanks for the deep insight....<BR/>Shahnaz KimiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-40019370024819043722007-07-23T19:39:00.000+05:302007-07-23T19:39:00.000+05:30Thanx for the comment Jesse. Nice to have the view...Thanx for the comment Jesse. Nice to have the view of an outsider. I'm sure glad I could teach you something :) My greatest fear is the growing rift between either side. And all that starts from mere stereotyping. Remember, a victim of racism usually turns out to be a racist himself. It is a psychological phenomenon. If this is the attitude some people feel they are getting from the other side, there is bound to be retaliation. And people who never had such attitudes in the first place, will definitely have one if they are the victim of the repercussion. And the circle of hate will continue...Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-21532216596731503432007-07-23T17:37:00.000+05:302007-07-23T17:37:00.000+05:30Hello Again,This article is an eye-opener for me, ...Hello Again,This article is an eye-opener for me, as I am not from India and my only knowledge of the happenings there comes from the news and internet and a local friend who originates from India.I read your take on this current issue and also followed a few of the included links to learn a bit more about it. Seems Mr. Hibu was giving advice to a community who were already so sensitive and raw from previous predjudice that it all got out of hand.Maybe he should have known better, having come from the community himself...and handled his booklet in a more positive way, if he had to publish such a booklet at all.When people are fighting to be accepted as part of society,( and not to be thought of as a group of undesirables, etc) it hardly helps to advise them not to eat their 'smelly foods' etc.Everyone has the right to eat their cultural dishes and dress revalingly if they so choose. It should be their own choice.Your post was excellently written and well researched. It was also very open minded. Hey, keep it up..and keep smiling ! I learnt something new today. You Go Sandman.. :)Trixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06536462575625902264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-62930324013402371352007-07-23T13:54:00.000+05:302007-07-23T13:54:00.000+05:30@ Ben: Thanx for pointing it out. Link is rectifie...<B>@ Ben:</B> Thanx for pointing it out. Link is rectified now. Regarding the Title, I think people who know Hibu and the booklet might know what this particular post is about. Although yes I agree people generally googling for news on NE might skip my post. I guess thats the risk Im taking. And about the "30 comments with half mine" well, that is exactly the difference between a personal blog and a consolidated News blog :-) It is considered a decent (N)etiquette to reply to the comments my visitors make, and also a way of showing my appreciation for the time they took to visit my blog and comment :)<BR/><BR/><B>@ claytonia:</B> Exactly my thoughts, bro. Thats the kind of message one might get from the booklet, that it is our fault for getting abused! And just when we thought people now <B>no longer</B> live under the delusion that a woman is raped just because she wears "revealing" clothes, some leader or the other comes out in the name of society and makes such a declaration. sigh....<BR/><BR/><B>@ BigSis:</B> :-P <BR/>U Muanpuii's back in Delhi. I'm going to interview her! :)Mizohicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09644240783333879705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-84197414631528193562007-07-23T13:20:00.000+05:302007-07-23T13:20:00.000+05:30Jobless youJobless youAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-36148667877419622692007-07-23T12:44:00.000+05:302007-07-23T12:44:00.000+05:30I feel that he should have instead tried to spread...I feel that he should have instead tried to spread awareness and sensitise the 'majority' about racism... instead it is like telling the victims 'hey conform or get abused!'. <BR/><BR/>And that myth that dressing provokes attrocities is so prevalent even now among so many. I wonder if all the newspapers screaming that it isn't true on their headlines everyday for a month might put some sense...claytonia viceshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01700112193424567973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-59395316416504226582007-07-23T12:43:00.000+05:302007-07-23T12:43:00.000+05:30I have this comment for the title.My reaction on s...I have this comment for the title.<BR/><BR/>My reaction on seeing the title:<BR/><BR/><BR/>Ethnocide: The Great Hibu Fiasco<BR/><BR/>Ethnocide : This post has something to do with ethnicity.<BR/><BR/>Hibu : Who this this ?<BR/><BR/>From the title alone, I had absolutely no clue that this article is about the booklet issued by Delhi Police.<BR/><BR/>I read the booklet was written by someone one from NE but I do not remember his name.<BR/><BR/>If given a list of titles (or say on Google search)about this booklet for NE issue, I am unlikely to pick this because on a quick look at the title, it doesn't give me any clue about it's content (booklet issue).<BR/><BR/>That is not to say this article is bad. (in case somebody misinterpret)benjamin rualthanzauvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12768672794264438637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9191295.post-61781618419933202362007-07-23T12:33:00.000+05:302007-07-23T12:33:00.000+05:30bad link: Battle over the Dress Code for NE Girls ...bad link: Battle over the Dress Code for NE Girls - mouthshut.com.<BR/><BR/><BR/>PS: if do not want to see 30 comment half of which is your own :-Dbenjamin rualthanzauvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12768672794264438637noreply@blogger.com